a rant about minors debuting in kpop

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I agree with this but then again i diagree because theres two ways the industry works:
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1.They recrute
2.they audtion
either way its their choice and they should know the sacrifices. I was born in South Korean and am a South Korean citizen and things like this may not be normal for you foreigners. then i again. i think the diets and the younger generations should stop. like the youngest in NewJeans in close to my age(15) and its pissing me off because their throwing their youth away.

so my points are
1.we cant stop this..but we can try and get the word out
2.the Kpop industry is forever messed up
3.America and others V.S Asian and Korean Industries have different ways to work..its just hard to see how it could be daily life.
one more thing: i didnt know people like Lizzo and Megan Thee Stallion were even liked in society(they are icons***)
 

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I agree with this but then again i diagree because theres two ways the industry works:
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1.They recrute
2.they audtion
either way its their choice and they should know the sacrifices. I was born in South Korean and am a South Korean citizen and things like this may not be normal for you foreigners. then i again. i think the diets and the younger generations should stop. like the youngest in NewJeans in close to my age(15) and its pissing me off because their throwing their youth away.

so my points are
1.we cant stop this..but we can try and get the word out
2.the Kpop industry is forever messed up
3.America and others V.S Asian and Korean Industries have different ways to work..its just hard to see how it could be daily life.
one more thing: i didnt know people like Lizzo and Megan Thee Stallion were even liked in society(they are icons***)

and about the sexy cute thing the thing i saw that in was cookie but then again it didnt sit well with me..
if you look at the chero of OMG its kinda...giving..pedo
does njws do their own chereo? or do they have a chereo person because if they do that would explain it
 

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Debuting minors should be illegal and I couldn't agree more about being a hypocrite and even indirectly supporting them instead of boycotting them.
However, this is something we can't help doing most of the times. Personally, I try to avoid any possible members who are minors in groups I'm listening to. I don't know if it's enough and it's not going to change anything but it's not like I'm the type of fan who does nothing more than just listening to their music from time to time (I rarely purchase merch / albums) so that's how it goes.
 

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This is a quote from Hyuna, an idol who debuted as a minor. I believe the question she was asked is what she would say to her 15 year old selfโ€ฆ these concerns she has towards NJ are truly heartbreaking because imagine worrying a group of children wonโ€™t be able to eat food or sleep at night because you went through that same thingโ€ฆ
 

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why are you guys somehow okay with young idols debuting? a perfect example of this is newjeans. even though their ceo out there is a fucking suspected pedophile who probably needs an investigation on her. "oh i like them, their personalities, and concept." first of all we dont know them, we dont know them personally for all we know they could be completely different off screen. plus, newjeans follows a concept of lolita which is very problematic in itself. what angers me even more is the newjeans stans (not on here y'all are super nice) are acting like min heejin is a perfect goddess too.

now moving onto baby monster their debuting a 13 YEAR OLD. i don't know if its true, it's a rumor but when i heard this i was so shocked. their my age my fucking age. if its true im purely full of rage. their debuting in an industry that is so dark that they won't understand and neither will i. instead of living out their teenage years, they'll be a tool for entertainment, under the whim of yg's finger they are so young that they are naive and could be easily manipulated into contracts that could overwork and overstress them at such a young age.

what's worse is im a hypocrite, i'm a fucking hypocrite. we all are, while we all rant about how idols diets are so bad, debuting minors are bad, how we hate this one company. we feed onto it, we obsess over it, we just watch this industry slowly kill a person mentally. we don't actually do anything about this sh*t even if i boycott this one group i don't like for debuting a minor it won't effect them in any way, we'll all just end up indirectly supporting a company or someone indirectly.

So buying newjeans albums is bad? ๐Ÿ˜ญ
 

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So buying newjeans albums is bad? ๐Ÿ˜ญ
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At the end of the day, not everyone experiences Kpop in the same way. For some people, they buy loads of albums, watch loads of content, attend concerts and fansigns ect ect. For others, they're in it for the music and that's it.

In that same way, people will have different amounts of emotional investment into kpop. For some people, they don't really care about who they listen to if the music is good. For others, they're very conscious about what they listen to because they also want to send a message to big industries about their own stances. For example, many people have stopped supporting Kanye because of his anti-semitist remarks he has been making recently.

In Kpop, some of the biggest things people have boycott artists for is racism, sexism, or other extremely serious scandals such as the Burning Sun scandal. However, it seems over time another new reason to boycott artists is minors debuting. This is because, the first and second gen idols such as Sunmi, Hyuna, Boa or Taemin are now much older than they were at debut, and can now speak more openly about what they suffered from when they were younger. Most idols who debut as minors suffer at school due to schedules (you may see some idols joke/talk about the fact they failed education), have their privacy exploited (all idols experience this), become victims of bullying due to fan culture (IVE are a great example of this, with Wonyoung receiving hate daily, Leeseo being mocked online and Liz constantly being spoken about for her weight), and as my previous message with an interview with Hyuna, may even be starved so they can fit into the clothes they're wearing, or may not sleep properly at night due to schedules.

And then, issues with pedophilia. In NJ's case in particular, people defend Min Heejin because they don't think SHE is a pedophile. But regardless whether SHE herself is a pedophile, she has shown time and time again she is willing to cater for an audience of pedophiles. This is putting NewJeans at risk. NJ isn't the only group who experience this though. One thing I always hated was Yuna in Mafia era, because don't get me wrong she was gorgeous, but the concept was a lot more mature and she wore a lot of crop tops and stuff that showed off her body, which incited a lot of people discussing Yuna's "perfect body" despite the fact she was 17 at the time. But like, there was a video recently where a male idol (I can't remember who) hid in a group of older men and they played a game of guess who the idol is. And in this video, a lot of the men who were like 40 years old confessed they were huge Bunnies, watched their content, thought the members were so cute etc and you could see the male idol's face drop with how creepy he thought it was. Min Heejin has put these girls at risk of stuff like this.

BUT, despite all I have just said, whether you buy their albums is YOUR decision. Because chances are, you know you're not a pedophile and therefore YOU are not consuming their content in a harmful way. You're one person, and so your decision whether to or not buy their albums and listen to their music doesn't change anything. But, these are the reasons you may see more and more people refuse to support groups with minors. It's difficult once you fall in love with an idol, like I did with Yuna, to stop supporting them no matter how uncomfortable you are. When the AOA bullying scandal came out, I never stopped listening to AOA. But, my personal decision is to not listen to new NewJeans songs, CLASS:y songs, Babymonster songs etc as much as possible, so I can't form that attachment in the first place

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At the end of the day it's your choice I can't force you to stop listening or buying new jeans albums.
But remember these actions will just support min heejin not the girls themselves. Read the last part of my rant I think you lost the entire point of it.
So buying newjeans albums is bad? ๐Ÿ˜ญ
 

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My source is Twitter so Iโ€™m sorry if this is incorrect but

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This is a quote from Hyuna, an idol who debuted as a minor. I believe the question she was asked is what she would say to her 15 year old selfโ€ฆ these concerns she has towards NJ are truly heartbreaking because imagine worrying a group of children wonโ€™t be able to eat food or sleep at night because you went through that same thingโ€ฆ
The quote is real, so don't worry
 

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It should be illegal. Fucking 13 year olds in crop tops and short ass skirts singing? Hell fucking no. They should be at school and doing stuff an 13 year old should be doing.
If not 18, at least 16. 16 THE FUCKING BARE MINIMUN.
 
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