a rant about minors debuting in kpop

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People are saying she isn't a pedo just bc she bought them Christmas presents which I hope they realize it's a part of gaining the victims trust and possible grooming
the amount of ppl praising min heejin for textbook grooming is insane. ppl need to be more educated on the topic
 

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This is a serious issue in kpop and it feels like it’s something that’s never going to go away. It’s been happening since the beginning of time. I can’t speak for other generations but people are noticing it now because idols are suddenly debuting at their age or younger while they’re also kids. I don’t know how the male side of the industry looks (though I can name an example of a male idol who debuted as a minor), but most girl groups I can name debuted with at least 1 minor.
I mean, all 2022 has been was IVE vs Le Sserafim vs NewJeans. But like. All as bad as each other. IVE has Leeseo, Le Sserafim as Eunchae and well… NewJeans has half their lineup. And the other half only just became adults.
People don’t give a shit about these children. I can guarantee that now. Because I’ve been seeing this audio of Leeseo crying at that award show being mocked all over the place. She’s 15 years old omg leave her alone. My sister is 15 and if I saw the entire internet doing that to her I’d be outraged. 15 sounds old but you’re still developing at that age… 15 year olds act mature, but they’re just not. I’m 18, I’m still not fully mature. I’m sure the members on the forums older than me also don’t feel fully mature yet.
Other idols who debuted as minors. Let’s have a look at JYP shall we.
Suzy - debuted at 16
Tzuyu - debuted at 16
Yuna - debuted at 15
Sullyoon - debuted at 17
And what do they all have in common. THEYRE THE FUCKING VISUALS OF THEIR GROUPS. Imagine labelling a child as a VISUAL. Now TWICE debuted with a cute concept, so that was age appropriate for Tzuyu thank god. Nmixx also don’t have a provocative concept though they did face loads of hate which can’t have been good for their multiple minor members - or just their members in general.
ITZY? Had some provocative choreography. Not too much. But a couple times while I was learning their earlier choreographies I was like you really had Yuna doing this?? Then Mafia hits and had her wearing very tight clothing and was overall a less minor friendly concept. Still not too bad but not ideal considering Yuna was 17 at the time.
As for Miss A… as we go back in the generations my knowledge weakens. But I’ve heard some of their songs and seen some of their choreographies and… alarm bells I tell you.
I also know Wonder Girls has been forgotten. Like I said I really don’t know much about them. But I believe Hyuna and Sunmi were both minors at the time and I even feel like I heard rumours that Hyuna left the group because she got pregnant with jyp’s baby or something?? Disgusting.
Now let’s look at a case which kinda scares me. Wonyoung.
Wonyoung debuted at 14 years old. FOURTEEN. She was a visual. Centre. She won a competition show which, by the way, the producer created to be “healthy porn for men”. Doesn’t matter if Starship rigged her in or not. She still won it. And that win got her insane hate because people wanted someone else to win. She’s been called a pick me girl multiple times. Her weight is constantly discussed online, whether for good reasons or not. She gets a lot of positive attention. She gets a lot of negative attention. She is my age. If I were in her shoes I wouldn’t be able to take in anymore. I don’t know her. I can’t make any judgements on her current mental health. But you know if something bad did happen, all these people would be sobbing about how we need to protect idols’ mental health. Bullshit. No one gives a shit. No one cares who is debuting. And like you said, we’re all hypocrites. But honestly this industry is so so fucked up so beyond repair, the only way to get it fixed is to boycott literally everyone
Wonyoung is who worries me the most. She's currently the most hated 4th gen idol in the industry why? Because she's pretty and talented and people jealous. Which is very big thing in the industry and even worse. A young idol could be easily a target of it and we don't even know when these haters will strike. Everyone used to love wonyoung but now some criticize for every little thing she does. These minor idols will become so self conscious that it will ruin them so much in the long run.
These idols will say "oh I actually chose this, I wanted this". No just no their mind hasn't full developed yet are they sure they want this decision people will say " it will hurt their feelings" fuck no you don't care about them you just wanna Stan them.
 

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People are saying she isn't a pedo just bc she bought them Christmas presents which I hope they realize it's a part of gaining the victims trust and possible grooming
I appreciate that you point that out, probably a lot of Min Heejin defenders are minors or very young and have no idea of how abusive relationships work. As a person who has been groomed, it's alarming and desperating that kpop stans are acting like they were blind to the case, even when they have listened to cookie 100000000 times.
 

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Wonyoung is who worries me the most. She's currently the most hated 4th gen idol in the industry why? Because she's pretty and talented and people jealous. Which is very big thing in the industry and even worse. A young idol could be easily a target of it and we don't even know when these haters will strike. Everyone used to love wonyoung but now some criticize for every little thing she does. These minor idols will become so self conscious that it will ruin them so much in the long run.
These idols will say "oh I actually chose this, I wanted this". No just no their mind hasn't full developed yet are they sure they want this decision people will say " it will hurt their feelings" fuck no you don't care about them you just wanna Stan them.
If I was Wonyoung I would have already hung myself. I don't understand how she can endure such hate, she must be so strong. Wonyoung must be in a very bad state of mind rn and the only thing people care about is her looks. They don't understand that EDs are MENTAL disorders and just keep fvcking her up.
 

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While on this topic, I also want to bring up something very important.

I’m sure people know that survival show contestants have been very young, such as Wonyoung as I previously mentioned, the contestants from MTG and contestants on GP999.

However, there was recently a survival show to form a girl group which is EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC AND I SUGGEST NOT STANNING THE GROUP AT ALL.

The show was called UPTOYOU, and was broadcasted on AfreecaTV. Now I do not know all the details, however what I’ve heard is this streaming platform has been known to broadcast more adult content, and in order to sign up for the platform, (I do not remember the exact age requirement) but the lowest possible age I could think of is 13. The majority of the lineup for the winning girl group were above the age of 20, and due to the nature of this streaming platform many believed the group would debut with a sexy concept. Now, what’s the problem?

The maknae of this group was born in 2011. Yes. She is 11 years old. She isn’t even old enough to have an account for this streaming platform. Yet she somehow ended up on a show with a bunch of adult women (who as far as I know did nothing wrong) on a network known to have released adult content. Now no matter what direction you look at this from this is messed up.
Because either
1. A bunch of (likely) adult male fans voted a child into this group
2. She was rigged into the group by the company

And we also have to acknowledge her parents allowed for this to happen?

As far as I have heard this group doesn’t have a name yet, but if/when their debut comes around, the group should be boycott until the minor member is out of the group.
 

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While on this topic, I also want to bring up something very important.

I’m sure people know that survival show contestants have been very young, such as Wonyoung as I previously mentioned, the contestants from MTG and contestants on GP999.

However, there was recently a survival show to form a girl group which is EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC AND I SUGGEST NOT STANNING THE GROUP AT ALL.

The show was called UPTOYOU, and was broadcasted on AfreecaTV. Now I do not know all the details, however what I’ve heard is this streaming platform has been known to broadcast more adult content, and in order to sign up for the platform, (I do not remember the exact age requirement) but the lowest possible age I could think of is 13. The majority of the lineup for the winning girl group were above the age of 20, and due to the nature of this streaming platform many believed the group would debut with a sexy concept. Now, what’s the problem?

The maknae of this group was born in 2011. Yes. She is 11 years old. She isn’t even old enough to have an account for this streaming platform. Yet she somehow ended up on a show with a bunch of adult women (who as far as I know did nothing wrong) on a network known to have released adult content. Now no matter what direction you look at this from this is messed up.
Because either
1. A bunch of (likely) adult male fans voted a child into this group
2. She was rigged into the group by the company

And we also have to acknowledge her parents allowed for this to happen?

As far as I have heard this group doesn’t have a name yet, but if/when their debut comes around, the group should be boycott until the minor member is out of the group.
oh my god that's disgusting
 

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While on this topic, I also want to bring up something very important.

I’m sure people know that survival show contestants have been very young, such as Wonyoung as I previously mentioned, the contestants from MTG and contestants on GP999.

However, there was recently a survival show to form a girl group which is EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC AND I SUGGEST NOT STANNING THE GROUP AT ALL.

The show was called UPTOYOU, and was broadcasted on AfreecaTV. Now I do not know all the details, however what I’ve heard is this streaming platform has been known to broadcast more adult content, and in order to sign up for the platform, (I do not remember the exact age requirement) but the lowest possible age I could think of is 13. The majority of the lineup for the winning girl group were above the age of 20, and due to the nature of this streaming platform many believed the group would debut with a sexy concept. Now, what’s the problem?

The maknae of this group was born in 2011. Yes. She is 11 years old. She isn’t even old enough to have an account for this streaming platform. Yet she somehow ended up on a show with a bunch of adult women (who as far as I know did nothing wrong) on a network known to have released adult content. Now no matter what direction you look at this from this is messed up.
Because either
1. A bunch of (likely) adult male fans voted a child into this group
2. She was rigged into the group by the company

And we also have to acknowledge her parents allowed for this to happen?

As far as I have heard this group doesn’t have a name yet, but if/when their debut comes around, the group should be boycott until the minor member is out of the group.
holy crap this is disgusting. idk why anyone would think this is okay?? i hope her parents are trying to get her out because why would u let ur child go through something like this??
 

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While on this topic, I also want to bring up something very important.

I’m sure people know that survival show contestants have been very young, such as Wonyoung as I previously mentioned, the contestants from MTG and contestants on GP999.

However, there was recently a survival show to form a girl group which is EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC AND I SUGGEST NOT STANNING THE GROUP AT ALL.

The show was called UPTOYOU, and was broadcasted on AfreecaTV. Now I do not know all the details, however what I’ve heard is this streaming platform has been known to broadcast more adult content, and in order to sign up for the platform, (I do not remember the exact age requirement) but the lowest possible age I could think of is 13. The majority of the lineup for the winning girl group were above the age of 20, and due to the nature of this streaming platform many believed the group would debut with a sexy concept. Now, what’s the problem?

The maknae of this group was born in 2011. Yes. She is 11 years old. She isn’t even old enough to have an account for this streaming platform. Yet she somehow ended up on a show with a bunch of adult women (who as far as I know did nothing wrong) on a network known to have released adult content. Now no matter what direction you look at this from this is messed up.
Because either
1. A bunch of (likely) adult male fans voted a child into this group
2. She was rigged into the group by the company

And we also have to acknowledge her parents allowed for this to happen?

As far as I have heard this group doesn’t have a name yet, but if/when their debut comes around, the group should be boycott until the minor member is out of the group.
This is actually disgusting. I'm so angry right now she's my cousins age someone I've considered as my little sister. It's disgusting how people around my age are going through this and makes me realize how lucky I am.
 

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Dude that's exactly what I said
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my comment isn't u, it's to go even deeper into fans role in all of this. ur not the only one. we're all hypocrites
"my comment isn't u" I meant, my comment @ u, meaning it's not targeting u. sorry if u misunderstood. I cannot type correctly
 

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i'd feel better about minors debuting if they had more of an innocent concept, like Cookie (the girl group, not the NewJeans song) like idk i wanted to debut in an idol group when i was 12 (i knew pretty much nothing at the time lol) and WHAM!88 is pretty much all minors but im trying to give them more of a teen concept and basically show people that teens are powerful also
 

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im not even gonna lie, gonna be completely honest here.
name one industry that isn't absolutely screwed up
almost impossible
as long as they don't have a horrible concept that sexualizes them, i don't rlly care, I'm not their mom, nor their friend. Imagine having this big dream that you've been training for for years and everyone just tells you "you're too young" it'll hurt them. People need to realize that kids are growing up way faster this generation due to the use of social media and youtube and more. ofc, im not trying to say debuting minors is good and completely fine. Honestly, it's a horrible thing that should disappear. But, sometimes ill rant about how debuting minors is horrible but im the same, im a hypocrite, I'll still stan that group, buy their albums maybe. And I've had people attack me for stanning newjeans, but I've never unstanned them, ofc, I don't think they'll become my ult or anything but yeahh
 

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i think companies do that so that there group can stay relevent for more years to come ( which makes zero sense)
but also i dont think the koreans netizens even care bc they always support them also whenever i try telling som1 that young idols shouldnt debut they always say oh well if they decided to be an idol its their choice when in reality there so young they dont know what there putting themselves into
 

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bruh i shared my rant on quora and ppl are saying ¨im being mean¨ for boycotting baemon
*Inhales and exhales*
These people think they're protecting children, but all they're doing is putting them in an industry that will exploit them. So many of the older idols who debuted as kids have expressed their regret. These children will grow up realising they entered an industry that only exploited them once they're old enough. And I bet these same quora people are out here mocking Leeseo's "Diveu" moment
 
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