this reminds me of how most of the clones are under nct and nct it supposed to be like a new thing because NEOct so they cloned their previous artists and put them in a new group so they take their already successful and get more money out of it lolI haven't updated this in over a month, cause I had nothing. But I saw this video with a theory I wanted to elaborate on and show you guys. This is also the first time I have posted on this thread when the sun was in the sky so that's new!
20. SM clones their idols.
This is a sillier one, but I think it would be interesting to compile all of the information.
So, there are bound to be some idols who have similar appearances, I could name a handful myself, but SM idols in particular tend to look alike. Therefore, I theorize that SM doubles as some kind of genetic testing facility where they clone their idols. Or they look for people at their auditions who look like successful idols under SM, in an attempt to replicate the success.
Here are some examples:
Minho-SHINee and Lucas-NCT/Super M and lowkey Chanyeol-EXO
Minho and Lucas especially look alike, but I think Chanyeol looks similar as well, I think it's the eyes.
-They all hold either main/lead rapping positions in their groups
-They all are the tallest/one of the tallest member in their group
-Minho and Lucas are both on the younger side of their group/are part of the maknae line
-They all have a visual positions.
-They are all viewed as a "sexy member" to an extent
-Chanyeol and Lucas both have deep voices, and rap in a deeper tone(I'm not sure about Minho)
-Lucas and Chanyeol have very similar personalities (silly, cute, kinda like a giant puppy)
Taemin-SHINee and Jungwoo-NCT
Some other similarities:
-They both of a higher vocal tone
-They are both one of the younger members of their groups/maknae line
-They are both very good dancers/have dance positions
Jaejoong-ex TVXQ and Taeyong NCT
I don't know enough about Jaejoong to make comparisons past appearance.
Yuta-NCT and Hansol-ex SM Rookies/New Kidd
These two legitimately look like twins, it's scary.
-They are both fairly quiet people
-They are either the oldest/one of the older members
-Their positions are similar (Main/Lead Dancer, Vocalist, Rapper)
Suho-EXO and Irene-Red Velvet
I think this picture speaks for itself. Other similarities:
-Both leaders of their groups
-Both one of the shorter/shortest members
-They both use stage names
We also can't discount how much of a Red Velvet fan Suho is.
Donghae-Super Junior and Jeno-NCT
Some other similarities:
-They are both lead dancers
-They are both one of the younger members of their group/maknae line
Taeyeon and Jessica-SNSD
-Both Main Vocalists
-They are both on the older side of SNSD
-They are both soloists
Wendy-Red Velvet and Renjun-NCT
I'm not sure if it's just me, but I think they look similar.
-Both Main Vocalists in their group
-Both the shortest/one of the shorter members in the group
-They are both foreign idols
id believe it since well its cubeY'all I feel like a genius right now with this one legit
24. Cube is trying/did push E'Dawn, Yanan, and Shinwon because they were not part of the original lineup and they regret adding them back in.
So if you didn't know Pentagon was formed by a reality show called "Pentagon Maker". In order to make the debut team each of the 10 contestants (10 original Pentagon members) had to complete there "pentagraph". It looks like this:
So this is Wooseok's completed pentagraph. I didn't actually watch the show but based on research, you had to get 5 points in the categories vocal/rap, talent, mind, team work, and dance. This was done through performances, tasks, and competitions which would get them points if done correctly/if they won.
By the end of the period that the reality show ran only Hui, Jinho, Hongseok, Yeo One, Kino, Yuto, and Wooseok completed their pentagraphs.
Shinwon had been eliminated in a previous episode, and idk about Yanan and E'Dawn but they didn't make it.
Pentagon was set to debut as 7 but Cube added the 3 eliminated trainees before debut.
What is suspicious about this is that two of the members who were not in the original lineup are now either no longer in Pentagon or have been inactive for some time.
When E'Dawn and HyunA came out with their relationship it was obvious they had been dating since E'Dawn was a trainee. Cube obviously knew this, but I think they came to an agreement that they would stay quiet.
I think they did something similar with Hui and Soojin. What is different in this case is that I think they gave the two the ultimatum of break up or leave the company. Hui and Soojin broke up because of this, maybe idk just a theory.
With E'Dawn I think Cube eliminated him at first because HyunA and him would not agree to break up, so they would kick out E'Dawn, but they would keep HyunA as she is their most famous soloist.
I think HyunA, being the powerful woman she is, decided to give Cube the ultimatum of put him back in the lineup or I leave. Cube and the couple probably then negotiated that E'Dawn would be in Pentagon, but they would keep the relationship secret. We all know how this worked out so I won't elaborate.
So in Cube's eyes it's one down two to go.
So I also think Cube thought, we can't just add one of them back, the fans wouldn't like that, so let's add the other two as well.
With Yanan it is very obvious Cube doesn't want him in Pentagon, no matter what Yanan wants.
I think Yanan took his first hiatus on his terms, he actually needed to.
Then he took his second one with the same purposes, but then Cube thought, this is how we can get rid of him.
Let's just extend this hiatus until he eventually leaves. Cube is currently doing this.
Yanan has stated numerous times that he wants to return to activates but Cube has not been cooperative.
I highly doubt that Yanan will comeback any time soon as he has been missing for I believe it is two comebacks "Humph" and "Dr. Bebe". Now I do need to say that Yanan did feature vocally in "Humph" but he was not present during any of the stages. This is when I think he was on a legit hiatus or was coming back from one, and then Cube said no go away.
Now that leaves us with Shinwon. I don't think Cube will try to kick him out because it would look suspicious if all three added members were no longer in Pentagon. However it is obvious they try to promote him as little as possible.
Hui does not have final say on line distribution, Cube has a hand in that. There is a good chance that Cube has shifted parts of his to other members. We know he can sing based on Pentagon Maker, it isn't like he can't do the parts.
Shinwon also has very little center time and is not featured frequently in dances. Cube's assigned role for him seems to be "comic relief".
But I could be completely wrong and that Yanan will comeback to promote, and Shinwon's suitation is based on other people being better for the parts and the fact that he is in a fairly large group.
With E'Dawn he's not gonna come back, that's for sure, but I think he still would have been kicked out even with the application of this theory.
This situation is very similar to what is going on with Momoland, but I don't stan them so I don't know the situation well enough to make a post about it.
Thank you for coming to tonight's rambling!
Omg I totally agree with the stray kids one, I love Chan but when I was getting into skz (a couple months back) and I didn't know all the members I was trying to match names to faces in live performances and I was so confused why Chan was singing predominantly in MIROH and practically centre stage the whole time. I'm not hating on Chan because he is really talented but I find it strange how he has heaps of lines in majority of the songs especially when the group had 9 peopleAlrighty part 3:
7. So I think this might be my most controversial and I'm not 100% sold on it but, does anybody else think that some idol producers given themselves more lines?
I have noticed this in some groups I think there could be a couple reasons for it:
1. They wrote the song so they think they deserve to have more lines.
2. They know their voice best and what parts that it would best suit the song.
3. And this one is probably the least likely, they give themselves the lines just cause they want more lines/the spotlight, but I highly doubt this.
Some groups I have noticed this in are Pentagon, Stray Kids, and Block B.
There are more (Seventeen, Ateez, iKON, Big Bang, (G)i-dle, and EXID) but this would turn into an essay.
I'm gonna present an example for each group:
Pentagon: Those who follow Pentagon know that Hui is their main producer/songwriter, and he is an amazing one at that. Fun fact: Hui wrote Wanna One's debut song 'Energetic' along with Wooseok. It makes sense that Hui has many lines in Pentagon songs as he is one of he main vocalist, however I still find issue with the distribution.
Hui tends to have a lot more lines than Jinho, the other main vocal of he group (who I think could definitely be applied more to the songs based on his skill in versatiltiy). Because Hui is giving himself lines outside of the chorus, which main vocals usually sing, many of the other lead vocals and vocalists get barely any lines. Here are some stats:
-In 'Shalala' Hui had the most lines with 37.3% total, the closest to him is Wooseok with 13.8%.
- In 'Naughty Boy' he had the most lines with 20.2% and once again Wooseok came the closest with 16.2%.
-In there debut song 'Gorilla' Hui had the most lines with 25.9% and the closest, Jinho having 19.9%.
I think that these distribution gaps makes some sense because he is a Main vocalist, however I think maybe he is giving himself more lines because he wrote the song. But I can't get into Hui's head so who knows?
Stray Kids: All of Stray Kids's music is written by 3racha (Bang Chan, Changbin, and Han). I have never seen a problem with Changbin's amount of lines, or Han's because he has both a rapping and vocal position and is the only person in the group able to hit certain high notes, but I am confused when it comes to Bang Chan.
Chan is an extremely talented idol in every discipline and an amazing songwriter/producer but his position in the group is lead vocalist. So when I first got into Stray Kids and I was looking at lyric videos I was super surprised that Chan was getting many more lines than Woojin, the main vocalist of the group.
-In Miroh Bang Chan basically sings the only vocal line over and over giving it to the other vocalists once each, while he sang it multiple times, including Woojin. He has 27% of the lines, I.N coming the closest with 13.7% and Woojin only getting 6.7%, which is a single line.
-In their debut song 'District 9' Bang Chan has the most lines with 17.2%, while Woojin had 10.4%. You think that especialy with a debut song the group would want to utilize their main position the most.
The example of Stray Kids is not as glaring, but the 'Miroh' distribution still really puzzles me, idk.
Block B: Zico, who is arguably the best rapper in the kpop industry, was the main producer for Block B. I understand that because of the groups rap heavy concept that those with vocal roles would be getting much less lines than the rappers, but Block B has 2 other very competent rappers. And yes Zico is the best rapper of the group, and does hold he position of main rapper, but I feel like the distribution could have been better amongst the rappers. Also stan Block B, they may be on hiatus but they still need appreciation!
-In the song 'Very Good' Zico gets 31.6% of the lines, with Taeil the main vocalist getting closest, and the closest rapper being P.O with 12.9%. Zico's rap tone fits very will with this song, and most of Block B's songs, but I also feel it fits the other rappers as well.
-In the song 'Her' Zico has 39.6% with the closest being P.O with 17.3%.
-He also has the most in 'Nalina with 39.9% and the closest P.O with 23.4%, almost double.
It makes sense for producers with a Main role to get a large amount of lines, but I feel like in these cases it goes a bit too far.
In terms of Bang Chan, maybe his voice just fit the song better, idk.
We can never know what these idols are thinking, as much as we may want to.
Also this is in know way me insulting the mentioned idols and groups but pointing out some things that I think are confusing and inconsistent.
Yeah Miroh especially. It's like he gave each vocalist one singing part each and then he gave himself the rest. I felt so bad for Woojin especially, with him being Main Vocalist. And his line wasn't until really late in the song.Omg I totally agree with the stray kids one, I love Chan but when I was getting into skz (a couple months back) and I didn't know all the members I was trying to match names to faces in live performances and I was so confused why Chan was singing predominantly in MIROH and practically centre stage the whole time. I'm not hating on Chan because he is really talented but I find it strange how he has heaps of lines in majority of the songs especially when the group had 9 people