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I think gender non-conforming is when u still wanna be ur gender but u don't dress (act?) like ur gender sterotype
There is this boy who likes to wear make up and wear dresses but h still wants to be a boy
does that make sense?
Ugh sorry this just reminded me of something I saw on tiktok that really pissed me off. This is a rant so you can ignore it if you want.

There was a guy who had a girlfriend who I believe was studying makeup or fashion or something along those lines, and she was using her boyfriend as a model. He looked so good as a woman and he was enjoying the “dress up”, but whenever people would ask if he was trans he would reply that he was a cisgender male. I searched to see if I could find out if it was sarcasm but I couldn’t. As far as I could tell he was a cisgender male. But all of his comments were saying “he’ll come out eventually” “he’ll figure it out eventually” “we’ll be waiting” stuff like that. And all I can really say it’s shit like this is what brings the movement down.
We as a community won’t be accepted until we cut out the bullshit like this. We’re suppose to be respectful of identities. And that means all identities. We’re suppose to be destroying norms not enforcing them…

For me… it’s just upsetting to see our community being used as a trend or a club. If that guy was in fact a trans woman, if he hadn’t come out there was clearly a reason. I swear most of what I deem as homophobia I see coming from our own community…
 

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Ugh sorry this just reminded me of something I saw on tiktok that really pissed me off. This is a rant so you can ignore it if you want.

There was a guy who had a girlfriend who I believe was studying makeup or fashion or something along those lines, and she was using her boyfriend as a model. He looked so good as a woman and he was enjoying the “dress up”, but whenever people would ask if he was trans he would reply that he was a cisgender male. I searched to see if I could find out if it was sarcasm but I couldn’t. As far as I could tell he was a cisgender male. But all of his comments were saying “he’ll come out eventually” “he’ll figure it out eventually” “we’ll be waiting” stuff like that. And all I can really say it’s shit like this is what brings the movement down.
We as a community won’t be accepted until we cut out the bullshit like this. We’re suppose to be respectful of identities. And that means all identities. We’re suppose to be destroying norms not enforcing them…

For me… it’s just upsetting to see our community being used as a trend or a club. If that guy was in fact a trans woman, if he hadn’t come out there was clearly a reason. I swear most of what I deem as homophobia I see coming from our own community…
the queer community is actually v transphobic, i've discovered. comments like those make me so mad, bc like you said, there's a reason some ppl don't or can't come out, and some ppl don't even know if they're queer, and nobody should try and force them into thinking abt it when they're clearly not ready
 

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Ugh sorry this just reminded me of something I saw on tiktok that really pissed me off. This is a rant so you can ignore it if you want.

There was a guy who had a girlfriend who I believe was studying makeup or fashion or something along those lines, and she was using her boyfriend as a model. He looked so good as a woman and he was enjoying the “dress up”, but whenever people would ask if he was trans he would reply that he was a cisgender male. I searched to see if I could find out if it was sarcasm but I couldn’t. As far as I could tell he was a cisgender male. But all of his comments were saying “he’ll come out eventually” “he’ll figure it out eventually” “we’ll be waiting” stuff like that. And all I can really say it’s shit like this is what brings the movement down.
We as a community won’t be accepted until we cut out the bullshit like this. We’re suppose to be respectful of identities. And that means all identities. We’re suppose to be destroying norms not enforcing them…

For me… it’s just upsetting to see our community being used as a trend or a club. If that guy was in fact a trans woman, if he hadn’t come out there was clearly a reason. I swear most of what I deem as homophobia I see coming from our own community…
You're the first person who I see talking about this topic and thank you. I had a similar experience when I saw a thread on twitter in which a user "proved" that Gravity Falls' Diper is trans. The clips used as "evidence" were nothing more than situations that many boys can find relatable, such as not fitting in into the "alpha male" standards. The message that the thread gives is kinda dangerous IMO because the "alpha male" is a concept that has affected women in negative ways and saying that if a boy doesn't have toxic masculinity he's is trans is just disgusting.
 

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You're the first person who I see talking about this topic and thank you. I had a similar experience when I saw a thread on twitter in which a user "proved" that Gravity Falls' Diper is trans. The clips used as "evidence" were nothing more than situations that many boys can find relatable, such as not fitting in into the "alpha male" standards. The message that the thread gives is kinda dangerous IMO because the "alpha male" is a concept that has affected women in negative ways and saying that if a boy doesn't have toxic masculinity he's is trans is just disgusting.
It just feels like it’s making a mockery of the LGBTQ+ community, in particular the trans movement in this case. There’s so much more to being trans than just wearing non-typical outfits for your assigned gender. You can be a cis man and wear makeup and put on dresses. You can be a cis girl and have short hair and have never worn a dress in your life. We always scream about how gender is a social construct and this is an example of that. But just because you don’t conform to what’s expected of you it doesn’t mean your identity is something completely different.
And again god forbid that guy was actually trans but in the closet. His comments would be filled with all these people trying to force him out. And you bet these are the same people who would cry about why outing is so bad if someone else had outed him
 

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It just feels like it’s making a mockery of the LGBTQ+ community, in particular the trans movement in this case. There’s so much more to being trans than just wearing non-typical outfits for your assigned gender. You can be a cis man and wear makeup and put on dresses. You can be a cis girl and have short hair and have never worn a dress in your life. We always scream about how gender is a social construct and this is an example of that. But just because you don’t conform to what’s expected of you it doesn’t mean your identity is something completely different.
And again god forbid that guy was actually trans but in the closet. His comments would be filled with all these people trying to force him out. And you bet these are the same people who would cry about why outing is so bad if someone else had outed him
ik the thread you guys are talking abt, and as a trans person, i didn't find anything wrong w it. he's a fictional character (whose creator has said that ppl making headcanons abt his characters' sexualities/genders is fine and he enjoys seeing what ppl think) and the person who posted the thread was a trans person who saw a lot of themselves in dipper and so made the thread to share their headcanon.
 

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ik the thread you guys are talking abt, and as a trans person, i didn't find anything wrong w it. he's a fictional character (whose creator has said that ppl making headcanons abt his characters' sexualities/genders is fine and he enjoys seeing what ppl think) and the person who posted the thread was a trans person who saw a lot of themselves in dipper and so made the thread to share their headcanon.
Ah idk anything about the character I was mostly just commenting on the tiktok (who was a real person not a character). Apologies if I said anything wrong
 

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ik the thread you guys are talking abt, and as a trans person, i didn't find anything wrong w it. he's a fictional character (whose creator has said that ppl making headcanons abt his characters' sexualities/genders is fine and he enjoys seeing what ppl think) and the person who posted the thread was a trans person who saw a lot of themselves in dipper and so made the thread to share their headcanon.
Sorry if I sounded complainy but I was making more enphasis in people's peception on trans life more than the character. I said what I found uncomfortable in the thread.
 

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Ah idk anything about the character I was mostly just commenting on the tiktok (who was a real person not a character). Apologies if I said anything wrong
oh, okay, i thought you meant the character. and no, you didn't say anything wrong, no worries

Sorry if I sounded complainy but I was making more enphasis in people's peception on trans life more than the character. I said what I found uncomfortable in the thread.
i understand that, sorry if i came across as annoyed or anything
 

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do asexual ppl still wanna have kids? like, biological kids?
i don't wanna sound rude, but its something i always wanted to know
depends on the person. also, asexual ppl don't necessarily never wanna have sex. it's abt a lack of sexual attraction; some asexual ppl may wanna have sex, but they don't feel sexually attracted to ppl.
 

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How many sexualities are out there? Makes me curious.
there's probably no real way to know. i googled it, and there's no answer that's universal. and one site listed bi-curious as a sexuality, but i don't think that's a sexuality. i mean, yeah, ppl may use that until they know how they wanna identify, but i don't think bi-curious is a real sexuality like bisexuality or lesbianism is (and just to be clear, i'm not biphobic or anything else). plus some ppl wanna try and throw in fake sexualities like dreamsexual or animesexual. and some rly sick fucks try and count pedophilia as a sexuality :cautious:😡
 

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there's probably no real way to know. i googled it, and there's no answer that's universal. and one site listed bi-curious as a sexuality, but i don't think that's a sexuality. i mean, yeah, ppl may use that until they know how they wanna identify, but i don't think bi-curious is a real sexuality like bisexuality or lesbianism is (and just to be clear, i'm not biphobic or anything else). plus some ppl wanna try and throw in fake sexualities like dreamsexual or animesexual. and some rly sick fucks try and count pedophilia as a sexuality :cautious:😡
also watersexual 😭😭 like???? Also MAPs/Pedos can go to hell 😍
 

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there's probably no real way to know. i googled it, and there's no answer that's universal. and one site listed bi-curious as a sexuality, but i don't think that's a sexuality. i mean, yeah, ppl may use that until they know how they wanna identify, but i don't think bi-curious is a real sexuality like bisexuality or lesbianism is (and just to be clear, i'm not biphobic or anything else). plus some ppl wanna try and throw in fake sexualities like dreamsexual or animesexual. and some rly sick fucks try and count pedophilia as a sexuality :cautious:😡
Oh really? Wow, there must ALOT of sexualities then. Whats bi-curious? Heard of it but I have no idea what it actually is. Dreamsexual? Wtf s that? Animesexual, omg plsss thats actualy really dumb, honsetly. Pedophillia? WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF Who in the right mind would call that a sexuality, disgusting.

Thank you for the answer though, I may never know all sexualites either way. :ROFLMAO:🥰
 
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