҉ Official Popular/Unpopular Kpop Opinions Thread ҉

[saucetae]

All these bullying allegations are coming out surrounding idols. It makes me think idols really aren't as nice as they stage themselves to be. How can you get any kind of pleasure from making someone feel like shit? Lmk. Genuine fucking question. Then go and sing songs about harmony and throw up peace signs like that's what you're about. psh, yea right.

 

[sanasideup]

All these bullying allegations are coming out surrounding idols. It makes me think idols really aren't as nice as they stage themselves to be. How can you get any kind of pleasure from making someone feel like shit? Lmk. Genuine fucking question. Then go and sing songs about harmony and throw up peace signs like that's what you're about. psh, yea right.

ofc they're not as nice as they stage themselves to be /nm
but most bullying allegations are old, so idrc, if i'm being honest. and some are false, anyways; like hyunjin of skz or soojin, formerly of (g)i-dle. both were proven false

 

[saucetae]

ofc they're not as nice as they stage themselves to be /nm
but most bullying allegations are old, so idrc, if i'm being honest. and some are false, anyways; like hyunjin of skz or soojin, formerly of (g)i-dle. both were proven false

But still, there have been many real ones lately, and it's sicking. Like Garam and Joohyuk. As someone who has been bullied, I don't tolerate it at all. Companies need to do background checks and get comfortable kicking people from groups. Stop just picking rando's off the street, please.

 

[sanasideup]

But still, there have been many real ones lately, and it's sicking. Like Garam and Joohyuk. As someone who has been bullied, I don't tolerate it at all. Companies need to do background checks and get comfortable kicking people from groups. Stop just picking rando's off the street, please.

i don't think background checks would be a good idea. in theory, yes; but in practicality, no. and even for the true bullying scandals, most of the bullying occurred several years ago, and ppl change, so unless they're currently being a bully, i don't think it matters. i've been bullied too, pretty severely, and that's just my perspective

 

[sanasideup]

I disagree. With how Korea is, it would have been hard otherwise for her to be successful if she was non-binary or trans, just look at all the Korean trans artists so far. Consider Harisu and the all-transgender group Lady. She would be forced to hide her identity. /lh /g

ik this is super old and not super related to what i'm abt to say, but i figured you'd be interested. there's a nonbinary soloist (they might also be transmasc, i'm not completely sure), but their name is haeri and they use he/they pronouns! here's his profile

 

[saucetae]

i don't think background checks would be a good idea. in theory, yes; but in practicality, no. and even for the true bullying scandals, most of the bullying occurred several years ago, and ppl change, so unless they're currently being a bully, i don't think it matters. i've been bullied too, pretty severely, and that's just my perspective

I agree, yes the bullying could have taken place a long time ago. But, If you have in your life thought it would be ok or acceptable to personally attack, physical or mentally harm someone, I don't you should be an idol unless you've been punished and haven't had any problems since. The proper precautions should be taken and that's why I think a background check is necessary. It gives context surrounding the situation. In Garam case, she obviously hasn't grown at all (judging by the snarky ass comment she made on Sakura's nose) and there for she shouldn't be an idol.

 

[chaerifyyy]

The way most kpop companies handle bullying scandals make me feel like the management team there aren't professionals and just random ppl picked off from the street. For example the way they handled the soojin situation they made SOOJIN respond herself no idol should be to the point having to respond on their own the company is the one who should be making a statement.

 

[sanasideup]

I agree, yes the bullying could have taken place a long time ago. But, If you have in your life thought it would be ok or acceptable to personally attack, physical or mentally harm someone, I don't you should be an idol unless you've been punished and haven't had any problems since. The proper precautions should be taken and that's why I think a background check is necessary. It gives context surrounding the situation. In Garam case, she obviously hasn't grown at all (judging by the snarky ass comment she made on Sakura's nose) and there for she shouldn't be an idol.

i agree that there should be signs of growth. as for garam's comments, i have no idea, i don't keep up w them like that

 

[chaerifyyy]

i don't think background checks would be a good idea. in theory, yes; but in practicality, no. and even for the true bullying scandals, most of the bullying occurred several years ago, and ppl change, so unless they're currently being a bully, i don't think it matters. i've been bullied too, pretty severely, and that's just my perspective

Personally I think even if the person changes they still need to face consequences of their actions. Even if she was a minor I'm pretty sure garam had the common sense of knowing what she was doing. While they might have changed their actions and trauma they caused haven't.

 

[saucetae]

Personally I think even if the person changes they still need to face consequences of their actions. Even if she was a minor I'm pretty sure garam had the common sense of knowing what she was doing. While they might have changed their actions and trauma they caused haven't.

PREACH!

 

[sanasideup]

Personally I think even if the person changes they still need to face consequences of their actions. Even if she was a minor I'm pretty sure garam had the common sense of knowing what she was doing. While they might have changed their actions and trauma they caused haven't.

ofc! i didn't mean that they shouldn't face consequences, just that if they've changed, the consequences shouldn't be so severe (and if they've already been disciplined, there shouldn't be one at all, besides natural the consequences of ppl finding out). also, way too many ppl are eager to "punish" somebody whose life doesn't even rly affect them (like w so many stans taking to the internet to basically bully garam after finding out she herself has been a bully)

 

[pika_chuu]

I agree, yes the bullying could have taken place a long time ago. But, If you have in your life thought it would be ok or acceptable to personally attack, physical or mentally harm someone, I don't you should be an idol unless you've been punished and haven't had any problems since. The proper precautions should be taken and that's why I think a background check is necessary. It gives context surrounding the situation. In Garam case, she obviously hasn't grown at all (judging by the snarky ass comment she made on Sakura's nose) and there for she shouldn't be an idol.

Wait what?? What did she say about Sakuras nose?

 

[yunaing]

(judging by the snarky ass comment she made on Sakura's nose) and there for she shouldn't be an idol.

I saw a video that said the comment she made was out of context while they were playing a game and petty people turned it into evidence against her.

I’m not “defending” her but misinformation like this is still wrong. Unless the video was also wrong then please correct me

 

[saucetae]

Wait what?? What did she say about Sakuras nose?

here's the video. it was rude, uncalled for and unfunny. Sakura did nothing to for that snarky ass comment to be made.

 

[saucetae]

I saw a video that said the comment she made was out of context while they were playing a game and petty people turned it into evidence against her.

I’m not “defending” her but misinformation like this is still wrong. Unless the video was also wrong then please correct me

now girl-
imagine someone making fun of your appearance and then laughing in your face
it's not petty or evidence, it's rude. I linked the video ^ if you wanna see it.

 

[yunaing]

now girl-
imagine someone making fun of your appearance and then laughing in your face
it's not petty or evidence, it's rude. I linked the video ^ if you wanna see it.

They were playing a game though. Every member had to make comments about each other. The game was you had to keep a straight face. Garam laughed because of Sakura's monotone voice when she thanked her for the comment. Every member laughed at each other. Every member made comments about each other. People only care about Garam's because of her accusations

And maybe I am in fact wrong. But the fact videos exist on both sides of the argument shows that this is clearly not enough evidence to prove she's a bully towards her group members. If both sides can take things out of context, it's not good proof. I'm not defending Garam, I'm just pointing out Kpop fans are amazing at twisting naratives.

God coz I’m really paranoid about the way this is coming off I just want to keep clarifying stuff.
1. I don’t think Garam is an innocent person. Her accusations are some of the most believable and my heart aches for the victims who are clearly suffering from this regardless of what happened
2. I want Garam out of Le Sserafim. For the sake of the 5 member’s reputations, the victims and because Garam’s life has been screwed over no matter what happens from here, innocent or not
3. I’m only pointing this out because no kpop stan truly knows what happened between Garam and the victims, what Garam is genuinely like as a person, and in this specific situation how Sakura felt. I refuse to make assumptions on people I do not know personally. Maybe Sakura was genuinely hurt by that comment in which case that’s horrible. But I don’t know Sakura so I have to just see things based on how they happened

 

[pika_chuu]

I love Gaeul but her blonde hair is not it

 

[saucetae]

I love Gaeul but her blonde hair is not it

agreed!

 

[sanasideup]

I love Gaeul but her blonde hair is not it

agreed! not everyone looks good blonde. i actually prefer black hair on idols, or rly colorful hair

 

[chaerifyyy]

agreed! not everyone looks good blonde. i actually prefer black hair on idols, or rly colorful hair

i agree blonde looks good on very few idols like
Yeeun CLC, Sorn CLC, Somi, Dayoung WJSN, Dahyun TWICE