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b.a.p didn't disband bc they were unpopular though... right after they debuted they got lots of recognition both in korea and internationally - their company just sucked :// the lawsuit and very long hiatus unfortuantely made them lose lots of fans (also himchan's scandal, which reflected very badly on the whole group)

there's still hope though, yongguk and zelo are still active as soloists and jongup even said that there's a possibility that they'll reunite as a group one day :')
i didn't mean they disbanded bc they were unpopular, i meant they disband but still didn't get the full-on recognize they deserved, much more than other groups that had hit it off better than they had
 

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i didn't mean they disbanded bc they were unpopular, i meant they disband but still didn't get the full-on recognize they deserved, much more than other groups that had hit it off better than they had
i don't disagree with that, they did deserve better - you just kinda made it sound as if it was other groups' (or their fans) fault that b.a.p didn't get as much recognition as they should've, when it was mostly their company's fault... while i wholeheartedly agree that b.a.p deserved much, much better, blaming other artists just doesn't sit right with me. the music/entertainment industry is very harsh and there are so many groups that unfortunately it's impossible for it to be "fair" - some artists are lucky enough to get super famous, but sadly many more don't get to experience that 😒
 

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i don't disagree with that, they did deserve better - you just kinda made it sound as if it was other groups' (or their fans) fault that b.a.p didn't get as much recognition as they should've, when it was mostly their company's fault... while i wholeheartedly agree that b.a.p deserved much, much better, blaming other artists just doesn't sit right with me. the music/entertainment industry is very harsh and there are so many groups that unfortunately it's impossible for it to be "fair" - some artists are lucky enough to get super famous, but sadly many more don't get to experience that 😒
yeah it's not fair to other groups if you blame them for the failure/unpopularity of ur favs bc it really isnt their fault
its sad how so many artists struggle a lot to succeed but the artists the struggle less are the ones that go farther..
 

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its sad how so many artists struggle a lot to succeed but the artists the struggle less are the ones that go farther..
i mean, that's not 100% true, there are many groups that struggled but still managed to become successful in the end - take exid for example. back when they first debuted they weren't doing that well and barely anyone knew them. they were lucky enough that one fan recorded a fancam of hani performing up&down that went viral on korean social media - so much so that some music shows invited them to perform the song even though they ended promotions a few months earlier (they even got their first win for up&down). another example - hun and gon suffered SO MUCH bc of yg and right when we thought all hope was lost, they debuted in one of the hottest rookie groups this year. (woong too tbh)

this might sound harsh, but i think too many young koreans dream of being an idol - it looks really cool from afar, but it's not an easy job, and considering how oversaturated the market is, it's really hard to make a name for yourself. the sad reality is that unfortunately, hard work doesn't always guarantee success - there's just no way for every kpop group to be super popular, no matter how hard they work, because there's just so many of them.

besides, it's not like the groups that are the most popular rn achieved it without any work and suffering. just because they're successful now doesn't mean they haven't had their struggles in the past - i personally know many people who immediately assumed that bts were as popular as they are now from the start, which is so not true...

ps. sorry for the rant hskshkvskv i got a bit carried away... it just makes me mad to see how cruel the industry (and the public) is, especially now that most new idols are literal children, and not be able to do anything about it
 

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i mean, that's not 100% true, there are many groups that struggled but still managed to become successful in the end - take exid for example. back when they first debuted they weren't doing that well and barely anyone knew them. they were lucky enough that one fan recorded a fancam of hani performing up&down that went viral on korean social media - so much so that some music shows invited them to perform the song even though they ended promotions a few months earlier (they even got their first win for up&down). another example - hun and gon suffered SO MUCH bc of yg and right when we thought all hope was lost, they debuted in one of the hottest rookie groups this year. (woong too tbh)

this might sound harsh, but i think too many young koreans dream of being an idol - it looks really cool from afar, but it's not an easy job, and considering how oversaturated the market is, it's really hard to make a name for yourself. the sad reality is that unfortunately, hard work doesn't always guarantee success - there's just no way for every kpop group to be super popular, no matter how hard they work, because there's just so many of them.

besides, it's not like the groups that are the most popular rn achieved it without any work and suffering. just because they're successful now doesn't mean they haven't had their struggles in the past - i personally know many people who immediately assumed that bts were as popular as they are now from the start, which is so not true...

ps. sorry for the rant hskshkvskv i got a bit carried away... it just makes me mad to see how cruel the industry (and the public) is, especially now that most new idols are literal children, and not be able to do anything about it
let's fight the corrupt industry together
 
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